Swarmer generally just feels too weak to actually be a viable DPS option because literally every other one out-dps's it in terms of raw dps, not even including the fact that their dps can be fully buffed, while swarmers cant.
Sure, firerate buffs DO help it get to that max limit, but it usually is yknow, a max limit, after it reaches that, the firerate buff doesn't matter anymore, as its just upkeep instead at that point.
So I've brought it up to par with G mini in terms of DPS, but still doesn't outclass it as it has little to no detctions, along with G mini being able to be fully buffed, still outpreforming it, but swarmer is no longer a useless option, can be viable in stun heavy modes since the DPS lingers.
Swarmer in general is kinda a hard tower to balance without making every other tower useless, so the fact it has no detections makes it a bit neiche, though ultimately a good thing because otherwise, it'd just be a better g mini.
For example: G mini with the bare minimum, of a Dj red track and Commander CTA, does around 310 dps. way higher than swarmers. but swarmer is good because it doesn't need those buffs, but with the caviat that it also isnt very useful when used with dmg buffs, since its damage is reduced to 0 at level 3 and onward.
Here are the statistical changes: 


Yet again, lmk if this feels like too much of a buff, because I also feel as if this COULD break the game again, though its all hypotheticals atp.
Also the 1000 global stack limit only really matters if 3 people bring swarmer as their main DPS, this is just to stop all 4 people bringing swarmer as their main DPS, its not like you're going to reach it anyway since you would need 45 swarmers to hit that threshold anyway.
the max DPS you can get out of all 1000 stacks is 8300 DPS, which is insane, but think about it, you would need 3 people with swarmer, which has no detections mind you, and the fact that the DPS that is shown, cannot be buffed further because swarmer is not affected by buffs that much.
45 G minis would still out-dps it severely, especially if you bring something like juggernaut to help support it.
Swarmer Buff (less stacks, but slightly more DPS.)
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if this suggestion has a max stack limits then i dont care
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twin you're still dealing 8.3k DPS with max stack WDYM-
If I increased that max stack, it would become meta, AGAIN, which I don't think is smart.
the DPS alone from this new rebalance is better, with old swarmer, to get that same DPS, you would need 52 swarmers, its still better than before, better in solos, and better at everything it used to do because you don't need to use that many stacks to get the same amount of DPS
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