criteria:
How versatile each tower is
How replacable they are and if they're the best option at a certain niche
How well they perform for their price/unlocking method
any towers missing are event towers i dont have or admin exclusive
THE MOST ACCURATE AND DEFINITIVE TIER LIST OF ALL TIME
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Were you genuinely high when making this? How are both Minigunners in the very top of the list? They're useless for any casual player who doesn't solo every gamemode.
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They deserve to be there because of the aura and hype moments (unironically)
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This isn't even about that, they're borderline obsolete for any casual who goes into Quad.
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literally this
both minigunners are slot wastes in trio as well, and even in duo they aren't worth picking. never use them outside of solos.- 0Edited 15:07, 13 October 2026
Objectively i would've put him in B+, but you know what team size i like the most, so subjectively it would be S tier.
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frankly i feel like gmini gets a solid spot in A tier (great specialist, awful outside of his niche), but base minigunner is like, somewhat high C, never use that thing
- 1Edited 15:16, 13 October 2026
Normal Mini is a Solo NST Fallen merchant (was used for Solo Frost Mode, but not anymore.)
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- 0Edited 22:07, 13 October 2026
saying this like bumpin doesnt get outclassed outside of solo hc
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saying this like Minigunner doesn't get outclassed outside of... nothing, it's just outclassed before you even get it.
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It's a mono detection tower with a niche filled by a free tower. Minigunner doesn't deserve any tier above C or B, dawg.
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Minigunner and golden minigunner have the highest dps limit in the game
It’s literally a risk/reward dps and the closest thing to that archetype
You’re sacrificing placement space, placements for other towers, nicher detections and below average ce (better than your bum kingpin)
For absurdly high dps, golden minigunner is the only tower to be able to reach 16k dps (20k with skills and not including précision skill)
You are less willing to take that risk outside of solo gameplay because..
other dps towers have a strict limit on dps, Even if it is pretty high in teams, that dps depends on being used by others as well to deal higher end dps (not a bad thing btw, just that isn’t a struggle for Gmini and why he’s meta in solo)- 1Edited 04:08, 15 October 2026
It can't even detect the most common detection in later gamemode mid games, which is Flying. By the logic even you said in the past, Minigunner is objectively bad for being a mono detection tower.
This is about versatility and how replaceable they are, and Crook Boss takes the cake before you buy Minigunner in most matches, because this is a multiplayer game.- 0
« It can’t Even detect the most common detection in later modes mid game » that’s hidden bro, you can genuinely look up the attributs themselves and you can see the difference in numbers
« By stuff you said in the past » minigunner has absurdly high DPS to account for the lack for the 2 less common detections
kingpin which costs 40 levels, an and a leg both in robux and in TDS currency
Does fuckall against the most common mid game Detection in EVERY mode and even at max potential against them he has ce comparable to Golden demoman (and not in a good way either) minigunner doesn’t depend on inconsistent forms of hidden to keep its ce away from being cancer + you wanna know what’s crazy, minigunner lacking flying and lead is better than him having some form of detecting it, because Atleast it doesn’t get glazed for something it obviously struggles at.
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Subjectively, you say?
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Minigunner is such a safe sub dps but a risky main dps. If the entire team is coordinated enough, mini and gmini can reach ABSURD dps levels + their dps gets increased directly from the placement limit skill
The only reason mini is meta in solo for dps is because.. the other dps towers literally suck ass when compared to it and are limited by a low placement limit meant for higher team sized- 2Edited 04:58, 14 October 2026
Minigunner is hot garbage for its price, then. "If the entire team is coordinated!" everyone's rear end, at that point, don't buy Minigunner or any tower at all, since a highly coordinated team can simply carry the entire game for you...
Crook Boss is FREE, Turret is FREE, Militant is CHEAP! Minigunner is just a mono detection Lost Souls and Solo Hardcore merchant, because he's garbage at the gamemode that truly matters in the end, Frost.
Minigunner deserves low B Tier at best and Golden Minigunner just deserves high B Tier and nothing else, considering how you treat everyone else in this messed up list.- 2
A high coordinated team can literally make anything work unless you're intentionally playing with stupid loadouts or you forget a detection check.
- 1Edited 13:52, 14 October 2026
Exactly, that argument falls flat immediately. If Necromancer is bad because of the "if there's a highly coordinated team" arguments, them Minigunner deserves nothing.
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w ragebait
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This list absolutely stinks. Mortar, who suffers from dmg drop-off and horribly slow projectile is B at best. Gatling in a tier of Kingpin is even wilder. Brawler? Pursuit? Military Base? In S? C towers.
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Mortar deals 1k SINGLE TARGET DPS, it’s DPS is ridiculously high for a splash oriented tower, only being comparable to a grenadier stack, it’s Unstunable, has similar ce than kingpin, is very ce for a splash tower AND can be used mid game
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Most of the time it would deal 50% of potential DPS, 400+ CE is devious for AOE. Also, GDemo has stun immunity, better ce, no drop-off, and much better DPS.
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« potential DPS » dude did you not read what i wrote
1k SINGLE Target dps
CDemo while Technically having way more total dps, he suffers like gmini where you need to use up alot of space and placements to actually have higher dps- 1
Don't know about you, but the wiki lists his DPS at 85...
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Yeah bro and cluster bombs are there for decoration
- 1Edited 21:54, 14 October 2026
they are there for decoration, they contribute almost nothing to mortar's single target dps and are so incredibly inconsistent it's not even funny, only worsened by damage falloff
notice how almost every aoe tower doesn't have damage falloff yet mortar does and, guess what, mortar sucks because of it
and, seriously, play the game before you talk up a tower- 0
dude i play the game alot
mortar unironically kills the entirety of fallen mode's hordes
and can take care of frost's early detection checks
he's an insane aoe pick for higher end modes and has seen use in voidcore
and also the way cluster bombs work make it so mortar actually has more uptime than other projectile based aoe towers
his firerate isnt affected by the cluser bombs so mortar can actually tons of cluster bombs at once, and sure it does make his single target dps weaker
it makes his splash (the thing he's meant for and we can both agree)
ridiculously op
his splash radius is huge on the main bombs making the damage drop off make sense (you get the 7.5 and 8.5 radius for less than 10k)
golden demoman has a 5.5 explosion radius at max level while costing 1.5x of lvl 3 mortar
rocketeer has a 5 explosion range and its only the fact his missiles spread out that make him a decent option
pursuit is the only tower to have a similar explosion radius, at the cost of
having insane down time (being the complete opposite of mortar)
and still ahving a smaller explosion radius than a max level mortar
not to mention the fact that the cluster bombs blow up in the circumference of the original splash meaning
mortar effectively has an extra 2.5 explosion radius
AND having uptime on that too- 1Edited 22:24, 14 October 2026
i thought (old) executioner taught us uptime doesn't matter when you can't do damage in the first place + aoe tower doing well in the mode(s) that want aoe fork in kitchen
- 0Edited 22:43, 14 October 2026
"when you cant do damage in the first place" damage drop off literally doesnt work in 50% of the radius, literally basic knowledge + the first big bomb is guaranteed to hit the main target even if the cluster bombs miss (Which they wont since high hp single targets are usually slow) and in crowds thats even better cuz 1. he wont waste all his damage on one weak enemy and 2. he can damage the back if the front already died from the main impact
ALSO wasnt down time literally one of your main arguments against pursuits
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oh you do think the game is played on a spreadsheet...
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Yanbo is either a speedrunner, a meta slave, or plays hardcore Nuzlocke hacks in his spare time. You decide.
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Bro mortar has a splash radius of like 8
- 2Edited 15:06, 13 October 2026
Necromancer aside (I do agree he is the least good of the DPS towers, but I think he's more D-F tier material than anything) this is an understandable tier list..
I'd argue base Mini should be knocked into S just because G Mini completely outclasses him in most circumstances, but aside from that and Necromancer just being moved to a regular low tier I don't have any complaints.- 1
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No
Mini Is Way better early game than g mini, having dirt cheap detections and all its levels until max costing less than 10k.
While gmini is more ce in the first 2 levels, the last 2 (which you’d afford by the late game) sacrifice cost efficiency for higher dps overall
247 ce is definitely pretty bad Cuz it has no gimmicks to save it
Gmini is still op due to the sheer strenght it can have- 1
I mean, I guess?
Personally if I want a fast firerate early game tower, I'd rather go with Militant, Operator, or G Soldier instead of stock Mini. They're cheap to upgrade (Until G Soldier max fsr) and also have Flying detection. Their late game is worse than Mini's, but since they're my early/mid towers I'll have something else to use with them.- 1
ok with early game i was kinda exagerating, he still does perform well in the earlier mid game, but in tighter eco modes and even solo hc skillless youre getting alot more dps from reg mini until the final boss fight thru raw cost efficiency alone.
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we're fully considering unlocking methods in a TD tier list where towers aren't obtained from gambling with the oh so slight exception of golden perks?
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yes
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Imagine a tower with the performance of paintballer costs 10000 coins- 0
i guess the frost blaster is hot flaming garbage then
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????
krampus was pretty hard from waht ive seen
but it is still an amazing stall, i nfinitely better than freezer- 0
it makes no sense to account for obtainability when that doesn't exactly affect the tower itself
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true but it does kinda make its viability kinda worse
an expensive tower will obviously be rarer to see
so you better make the times it shows up
worth it
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Robux.
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kingpin don't deserve this disrespect
A tier??? - 1
I was predicting you'd stuff kingpin and juggernaut lower and engi and accel higher and I can tolerate frost blaster glaze in this house because its true but how the fuck is shotgunner not in S tier and both cowboys even above A-, I disagree with a lot on this list the frost blaster glaze is the one thing keeping me from ranting on this tierlist
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jugg is way too dependant on both his gimmicks to actually be at full potential (Doesnt mean he's bad, just too complex for a consistently good performance)
kingpin is a very solid tower in solo hardcore, and his top path has its usage in the late game of some modes
but bottom path is genuinely such a weak dps option for half a million- 1
putting this here (I gave up on the order the moment I got to s tier so just know its jugg top of s, then enforcer, gcb and kp which are interchangable, and then I just did whatever for everything else, yes ive played with war machine enough times to actually judge it)
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jugg over accel
alright bro
+ gcow and cowboy while being fairly niche compared to other early towers, it performs very well in the early game of fallen, frost, solo hc, and duo voidcore- 0
I hate cowboy and gold cowboy it did irreperable damage to my randoms during post shock and awe tds
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Mortar is just outclassed in todays age. Spotlight tech has way more aoe potential and confuses enemies too and is just generally more cheaper. Tesla is also super underrated as well. having good aoe and stun is pretty great
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"spotlight tech has way more POTENTIAL"
i do kinda see where you're coming from, but its way too dependant on its fire to deal actually high end dps, which alot of fodder in higher end modes counter. it gets affected by defense too. and its single target ce is actually atrocious, so even if most explosive towers have very bad ce, they can still atleast take out weaker dps checks.
mortar and gdemoman have thesame relationship as gcrook boss and gmini, gcrook boss is a very solid dps tower in teams, but gmini is way better when spammed enough - 1
he said it he said the word
I wanted an excuse to slander g soldier even if this slander image is outdated by a years worth of balance changes- 2
- 0Edited 07:23, 14 October 2026
GSoldier slander is the dumbest thing in the world.
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