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    OvergrownTadpole2·

    Both of these feats first beaten with kingpin btw

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      PathfinderYanboblox22·

      Engineer makes the first one butt easy and the second still needs a high level skill tree which this wiki hates anyway 😭😭😂

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        OvergrownTadpole2·

        Mention kingpin once to summon yanbo

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          PathfinderYanboblox22·

          am I wrong

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            OvergrownTadpole2·

            Yanbo If you hate kingpin just keep it to yourself. You don’t need to rage and argue when someone mentions kingpin.
            If you hate the tower so much just forget about it and stop trying to convince people that it sucks because in reality no one will agree. If you have an opinion that’s ok but you don’t need to hate on every comment that says otherwise.

            Edited 09:28, 15 October 2026
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              PathfinderYanboblox22·

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              WikilingFurnitureEnthusiastAstral·

              i'm gonna be real with you yanbo is just insistently stagnant at this point

              i give up on convincing him about anything if it doesn't reaffirm his existing beliefs

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                PathfinderYanboblox22·

                ??? No bro No 😭😭
                I genuinely used to believe engineer was filler (around her release in mid 2022)
                I genuinely thought accel was a better solo dps than gmini until like 2024 (which was pretty debatable until the accel rework)
                My opinions do change 😭😭😭⁉️

                Even if my opinions are strong on some towers I can give credit where it’s due 😭😭😭😭😭🤲 + I’m still not seeing any counter point

                Edited 10:33, 15 October 2026
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                  Spring Melon·

                  There's no point in giving you counter points because you just resort to bum or fraud or saying that a tower you don't like can't do anything until it's high level when towers you like also need to be high level to not suck ass, as you fantasize some world where spawner units die within two seconds of existing (Unless it's Merc Base because apparently an environment that's lethal to Bouncers, Contractors, and Executioner Skeletons allows for Rifleman stacking somehow). You clearly don't see solo HC as an achievement for a tower to be meta in because towers like Sniper and Necromancer have been used to triumph it successfully, and you're so high off hating the bone keeper that anything he does can't be impressive or worthwhile anymore.

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                    People PersonCheaperNightingale068·

                    He thinks that SHC is easy btw. He says that Kingpin is useless until final levels, but his "Goat Base" is useless until Level 6. He only glazes old towers and refuses to use new towers.

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                      PathfinderYanboblox22·

                      that because SHC IS EASY
                      YOU (kingpin glazer) ARE STRUGGLING ON THE FLYING TRIAL
                      BECAUSE
                      you refuse to use towers you claim to be fraudulent cough merc cough

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                    PathfinderYanboblox22·

                    Field medics exist + merc deals similar if not more DPS on average than Kingpin + his stacks while having way more utility and costing less than 280k

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                      Spring Melon·

                      Good luck getting those stacks up if enemies are constantly dealing enough damage to kill Bouncers and Necromancer units from the other end of the map without even having to consider ram damage.

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                        PathfinderYanboblox22·

                        Rifleman has more range than lackeys making him way less map dependant and also AirDrop can just make me decide where I can build my stack

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                          Spring Melon·

                          And then the magic Kill All Units thing you like using to keep your bs going happens and kills your stack.

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                            PathfinderYanboblox22·

                            rifleman would still objectively be less vulnerable
                            yes you would lose alot of your stack BUT
                            you can just airdrop them if you are already aware that abig burst of damage ot your units is coming + the extra range still gives rifleman a little more attacking time (such as a multi damage combo or just a big horde of fast enemies, which usually gets handled by 1-2 riot guard queues or airdropping 3 of em)
                            also field medics does basically counter 90% of boss attacks
                            the thing about merc is that YOU control what happens with your units, you can decide where they start, when they spawn and in which order

                            Edited 21:09, 15 October 2026
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                              Spring Melon·

                              Until they all die and your airdrop is on cooldown., because units die every two seconds Oops!

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                                PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                "until they all die and your airdrop is on cooldown because units die every 2 seconds" ??
                                no bro
                                there is a decent amount of time in between bursts of unit death its just that
                                a huge chunk of your units die in a short amount of time
                                and also if ur consistently using airdrops
                                thats kinda on you

                                Edited 21:17, 15 October 2026
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                                  Spring Melon·

                                  So the death spam goes away when it's Merc Base? Ahh, so you're the one killing units. Got it.

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                                    PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                    ???
                                    no bro
                                    death spam is there
                                    merc base is the only one that can basically rebuild a decent stack instantly, its not fully immune but is the best against it
                                    it has a way to heal units, fully nullify attack damage AND you can quickly kill frontliners by sending in your own.
                                    in boss fights and the late game of alot of modes, wave structures are usually:
                                    alot of fast enemies that are also weak but will push back for
                                    the slower but fat enemies they are just free money but when given enough time to push thanks to the last enemies, they can be threatening
                                    and now its either support enemies (healer, jester or summoner) or a boss/miniboss.
                                    alot of the enemies mentionned can and WILL kill alot of your unit, even more if you struggle against the first rush of fast enemies.
                                    not only does merc have tools against alot of these enemies, (riot guard to kill or atleast nuke the frontliner's hp, grenadier to take out fodder, rifleman for your main damage output of the tower) it can unironically help other towers too with field medics (which basically turn your stack unkillable outside of fast rushes and a major boss fight, but still extending your stack's lifetime in the latter)

                                    remember in the worst case scenario of that alot of your stack got consumed by speedy king + slow king spam, you have a button that can rebuild your stack where and when you want

                                    Edited 21:54, 15 October 2026
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                                      Spring Melon·

                                      Except when you burnt through the air drops for another breach and then you're screwed.

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                                        PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                        situational asl
                                        if your units got destroyed by a rush of fast enemies, prioritize riot guards and maybe a few riflemen if there are flying enemies.
                                        if its a boss attack.. you can just tank it.. the cooldown for that ability is probably long, even if other spawner towers can eventually rebuild their units, merc base can keep the highest up time and lose the least amount of damage
                                        if you are taht paranoid about another burst of damage coming your way... just... dont use every airdrop at once, you can place 3 mercs..

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                                          Spring Melon·

                                          Kinda hard to not burn through my mercs when units die every two seconds

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                                            PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                            git gud i guess

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                                              Spring Melon·

                                              Don't see why I should git good in your version of TDS where only five towers aren't bums

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                                                PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                                cuz you suck at the game ifur letting your merc stack die except in like late game voidcore or pw2 bro

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                                                  Spring Melon·

                                                  When the game apparently kills units every two seconds (According to YOU, by the way), it's hard to keep a stack of anything going (Also holy moly we're going to the side of the page)

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                                                    PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                                    ALMOST AS IF ID ONT KNOW??

                                                    MERC HAS THE MOST TOOLS AGAINST UNIT DEATH

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                                                      Spring Melon·

                                                      I can't reply anymore help

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                                                        PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                                        same

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                                                          Spring Melon·

                                                          I think this wiki needs some more work done ngl, especially for this

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                                                            PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                                            agreed

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                                                              Spring Melon·

                                                              Heck it, let's try to go off-screen

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                                                                PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                                                bet

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                                                                  Spring Melon·

                                                                  Oop, it's fixed... for now.
                                                                  Pity, that was funny.

                                                                  Edited 01:07, 16 October 2026
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                                                                    PathfinderYanboblox22·

                                                                    not for meits still not fixedimage.png

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